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Outsider

Why is Sarah Palin quitting?

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Why Is Palin Quitting? Ask Auburn, NY

http://womensissues.about.com/b/2...-palin-quitting-ask-auburn-ny.htm

Friday July 3, 2009

Alaska Governor Sarah Palin did some traveling in June. And one of the places she visited was Auburn, NY, the home of former Secretary of State William Seward, the mastermind who brokered the purchase of Alaska from Russia under President Andrew Johnson.

To say she received a hero's welcome would be an understatement. She rode in a parade down streets jammed with gushing well-wishers. Local television showed smiling faces -- young, old, male, female -- all saying how attrractive she was, how sweet, how much they admired her.

She has deeply devoted, dedicated suppporters. One high school senior attending her prom the night of Palin's Auburn appearance skipped her hair appointment - a date she'd booked weeks in advance - to see Palin live.

On that day, Palin enjoyed a kind of rock-star celebrity that was a far cry from her more pedestrian day-to-day dealings with legislators back home in a state where her approval ratings have dropped significantly since she stepped onto the national stage.

As Palin noted in today's jaw-dropping news conference, she and her husband Todd have racked up half a million dollars in fighting accusations of ethics violations.

The equation of Palin's resignation is easy to add up. She experiences love and cheering crowds when she travels to select locations. She's having a hard time back in Alaska and feels that if she continues on as a lame duck governor, she'll be playing politics as usual. It's more appealing to be a maverick and quit instead of continuing to press her nose to a grindstone that doesn't give her warm fuzzies. It's a matter of the instant gratification of "We love You Sarah!" screamed by fans in the lower 48 vs. the delayed gratification of a full term served out in Alaska. It's a crazy move, but it's consistent with what we've seen of Saran Palin.

There's one thing that puzzles me. Palin hails from a family that takes its commitment to team sports seriously. One of the first things a student athlete learns is never quit. Her perseverance as an athlete and runner has constantly been referenced, and ironically enough, she's being featured in an upcoming issue of Runner's World. So doesn't quitting equate to being a bad sport?

We're all still reeling from the news of her resignation. As we wonder about the possible reasons why -- an undisclosed scandal about to surface? bad times ahead as the governor of Alaska? more ethics charges lodged against her? -- remember the story of Auburn, NY. It isn't so far-fetched.
Kestrel

Why would she be considered a "lame duck"?

To me, she now looks like a quitter.
Outsider

Kestrel wrote:
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To me, she now looks like a quitter.


I think this paragraph from the article nailed it.

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It's more appealing to be a maverick and quit instead of continuing to press her nose to a grindstone that doesn't give her warm fuzzies. It's a matter of the instant gratification of "We love You Sarah!" screamed by fans in the lower 48 vs. the delayed gratification of a full term served out in Alaska. It's a crazy move, but it's consistent with what we've seen of Saran Palin.
US-Patriot

Way to win votes.....  commit and quit.
SkygreenLeopard

Maybe because she's more crooked than a 3 dollar bill and it finally caught up to her?
THE CURE

She's waiting for the rapture.
THE CURE

US-Patriot wrote:
Way to win votes.....  commit and quit.


I thought you were leaving.  Confused
flyupsidedown

SkygreenLeopard

"I'm not a quitter!" says the quitter.

She's so full of crap. It's not in Alaska's best interests to constantly see their governor go through "frivolous" ethics violations lawsuits? Right.

She's resigning because she's a crook. Her husband's a crook, and because having the national spotlight on them revealed their true nature they were actually called out on it. boo freaking hoo. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Outsider

Now that we know pretty much why she quit, the next question is--What on earth motivates anyone to keep supporting a quitter?
SkygreenLeopard

Outsider wrote:
Now that we know pretty much why she quit, the next question is--What on earth motivates anyone to keep supporting a quitter?


What on earth motivated them to support a psycho crook in the first place??  
coastie

I'm no big sarah palin fan - but..

sunalsorises wrote:

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What on earth motivated them to support a psycho crook in the first place??  


where do you the the psycho crook from?
Kestrel

"I'm not a crook" - Richard Nixon
flyupsidedown

What you are experiencing is a group fear and mass hysteria that Palinism is growing and will energize the silent majority that see the ugliness of the beast arise against the beauty.  Sarah will be free and incognito as she triumphs across the nation speaking out and raising the ranks.  

You can almost smell the the tangible fright of the liberal pores oozing out.  You can actually feel the ground quaking under their feet, and hear their knees knocking.  They don't know how to destroy a decent mother, wife, christian women of principled values without it looking, well . . . just like what it is, nastiness.  She is a long distance runner and knows about pacing herself for the long haul.  She's no quitter and they can't stand that she won't be holed up in the great state of Alaska.  I hear you Sarah (wink, wink) you can count on my support as you educate and become educated in the cesspool we call national politics.  You're a winner!
SkygreenLeopard

flyupsidedown wrote:
What you are experiencing is a group fear and mass hysteria that Palinism is growing and will energize the silent majority that see the ugliness of the beast arise against the beauty.  Sarah will be free and incognito as she triumphs across the nation speaking out and raising the ranks.  

You can almost smell the the tangible fright of the liberal pores oozing out.  You can actually feel the ground quaking under their feet, and hear their knees knocking.  They don't know how to destroy a decent mother, wife, christian women of principled values without it looking, well . . . just like what it is, nastiness.  She is a long distance runner and knows about pacing herself for the long haul.  She's no quitter and they can't stand that she won't be holed up in the great state of Alaska.  I hear you Sarah (wink, wink) you can count on my support as you educate and become educated in the cesspool we call national politics.  You're a winner!


You guys see that right there? That is a perfect example of the modern conservative. Too infatuated with his own hyperbole to open his eyes and see that his "shining heroes" all have clay feet. He'll be the band playing on the deck of the republican titanic, you can be sure, and he'll only play louder the more clear it becomes that the ship is doomed.

That's why they're ever increasingly becoming extinct, and why they need to become extinct.
flyupsidedown

SAR:  
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That is a perfect example of the modern conservative.


That's 'Classical Liberal' if you please.

and, please note;  Mrs. Palin has been vague about her plans and keen to keep her options open in interviews and statements since making the bombshell announcement and suggested she was looking for ways to advance her conservative agenda outside of Alaska.

Her supporters are following suit.

Mrs. Palin's personal lawyer Thomas Van Flein wrote in a statement Tuesday that Mrs. Palin had "created a new political reality and is changing the battlefield to pursue her goals of energy independence for America, rational tax policies, improved national security and more efficient and smaller government."

"I suspect you may see her in the future," he added.
coastie

for sunalsorises - where do you come up with the"psycho crook" label?
Outsider

SAR wrote:

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You guys see that right there? That is a perfect example of the modern conservative. Too infatuated with his own hyperbole to open his eyes and see that his "shining heroes" all have clay feet. He'll be the band playing on the deck of the republican titanic, you can be sure, and he'll only play louder the more clear it becomes that the ship is doomed.

That's why they're ever increasingly becoming extinct, and why they need to become extinct.


Fly, it's not too late.  You can put down your horn and get on the lifeboat.
Be sure to give the instructions to other band members.

Click here for instructions:
http://www.democrats.org/page/group
SkygreenLeopard

coastie wrote:
for sunalsorises - where do you come up with the"psycho crook" label?


Psycho:











1. Palin doesn't believe global warming has been proven.
2. Palin is in favor of teaching creationism alongside evolution in public schools.
3. Palin believes abortion should be illegal, even in cases of rape and incest



Crook:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27105917/

http://palingates.blogspot.com/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geo...hit-with-more-ethic_b_226667.html
coastie

That makes her a "psycho and a crook"?????????

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1. Palin doesn't believe global warming has been proven.
2. Palin is in favor of teaching creationism alongside evolution in public schools.
3. Palin believes abortion should be illegal, even in cases of rape and incest



There are millions upon millions of Americans that agree with Palin on those issues.  Are they also psychos and crooks?

In the 1980's SAR they were warning us about another ice-age coming.  Over the last several years, temperatures have actually moderated.  I don't think no1 on your hit parade has been proven either.

I agree with Palin on no2 also.  

I almost agree with Palin on no3 - I do waiver on the rape/incest portion.  Abortion should not be used as birth control or to rid one of an inconvenient pregancy.

Guess I'm just another psycho crook.
flyupsidedown

coastie:
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There are millions upon millions of Americans that agree with Palin on those issues.  Are they also psychos and crooks?


Like I said, the liberal thought process is a mindfield of confusion and communistic/socialistic/fascist notions leading nowhere.  Their thought processes are somewhat backwards.  What the bible states when it tells us the last days will be characterized by "good being evil and evil called good".  It is a scary path to tread into the inner sanctums of liberal thought.  I suggest you carry a flashlight.
SkygreenLeopard

coastie wrote:
That makes her a "psycho and a crook"?????????

Quote:
1. Palin doesn't believe global warming has been proven.
2. Palin is in favor of teaching creationism alongside evolution in public schools.
3. Palin believes abortion should be illegal, even in cases of rape and incest



There are millions upon millions of Americans that agree with Palin on those issues.  Are they also psychos and crooks?

In the 1980's SAR they were warning us about another ice-age coming.  Over the last several years, temperatures have actually moderated.  I don't think no1 on your hit parade has been proven either.

I agree with Palin on no2 also.  

I almost agree with Palin on no3 - I do waiver on the rape/incest portion.  Abortion should not be used as birth control or to rid one of an inconvenient pregancy.

Guess I'm just another psycho crook.


Yes, all the videos and those beliefs do indeed make her less than intelligent, and pretty darn psycho looking in interviews. Very sorry if this offends those who hold the same beliefs.  Nothing personal you see, in ten years or so we'll all look back and have a good laugh. Smilie_PDT

As for being a crook: I'd say being found GUILTY of abuse of power, and in her short term as governor having ELEVEN ethics violations complaints with several more in the works makes you crooked. Yes. Without a doubt. If you disagree, then you're just in denial, plain and simple.

This gun-toting soccer mom would make a great maple syrup commercial spokesperson. Politician? Naaaaah.

Not that most of you southern conservatives care, issues? knowledge? what are those? These photo ops were all I needed to know I was votin' for her!



flyupsidedown

A Harley and a gun.  What more could you want?  If you think people will voted enmass for her because of these your further gone than I thought.  I do think many liberals won't vote for her because of these pictures.  Tell me I'm wrong.  How stupid is that?

This lady has charm, beauty, brains, charisma, a following nationally and is building her political credentials.  Oh yeah, have you checked into the basis for those frivolous law suits?  They are rediculous and were brought mainly because they know they can drain her financially and it costs them nothing to bring one.  These are the tactics of the liberal fascists that can't stand her.  Not to mention she ruffled the 'good ole boys' and exposed their corruption.  It won't work.  Just watch and keep on watching.  Juuuuust keep awatchin.
coastie

One of the lawsuits held up - and Palin reimbursed the state for her childrens' travel.  She was under the wrong impression that it was an allowable expense.

The other suits were dismissed as frivolous or without merit.  They were brought by people that had an ax to grind (probably far left folks of the sar ilk).  These suits and legal expenses and the impact they had on her ability to focus on governing, according to Palin, played a large part in her decision to resign.
SkygreenLeopard

flyupsidedown wrote:
A Harley and a gun.  What more could you want?  If you think people will voted enmass for her because of these your further gone than I thought.


You need to get out more in Roanoke Rapids then or the South in general, methinks. EVERY SINGLE PERSON I talked to prior to the election who was voting McCain only mentioned one of several things they admired about Palin. She was a woman who knows how to hunt, she was a "strong mother," or "she's hot! who wouldnt vote for that bod?" Rolling Eyes

I wish I were kidding. Fact is, people will and DID vote "enmass" for Sarah Palin for those very reasons. They related with her on that downhome heehaw level, which around here seems to trump intelligence and viable solutions to real-world problems. Your move!


flyupsidedown wrote:

This lady has charm, beauty, brains, charisma, a following nationally and is building her political credentials.  Oh yeah, have you checked into the basis for those frivolous law suits?  They are rediculous and were brought mainly because they know they can drain her financially and it costs them nothing to bring one.  These are the tactics of the liberal fascists that can't stand her.  Not to mention she ruffled the 'good ole boys' and exposed their corruption.  It won't work.  Just watch and keep on watching.  Juuuuust keep awatchin.



I'm watchin! I'm watching more and more skeletons pop out of her closet. I'm watching her alienate the moderate majority of America, and whip up the southern-cross flying crowd into a git'er dooooooooone frenzy. That's what I'm watching. Hey Democrats! Watch out! We've awoken the sleeping giant! and it's fresh out of Red Man! Laughing
coastie

How ironic. I read SAR's post above and there was an Ann Coulter advertisement at the bottom - way to go Ann.

People vote for candidates for any number of reasons.  Why do 95 percent of blacks vote for the black candidate if there is one?

Some vote base on appearance.  They say that Kennedy won out over Nixon because he appeared better looking on TV in the debates.

How many educated people cross party lines when they vote?  

Sar talks about crooks and psychos - how about all those Obama nominees that had to have their names withdrawn because they'd underpaid their taxes?  How about Charlie Rangel?  How about our treasury secretary?
SkygreenLeopard

coastie wrote:
How ironic. I read SAR's post above and there was an Ann Coulter advertisement at the bottom - way to go Ann.

People vote for candidates for any number of reasons.  Why do 95 percent of blacks vote for the black candidate if there is one?

Some vote base on appearance.  They say that Kennedy won out over Nixon because he appeared better looking on TV in the debates.

How many educated people cross party lines when they vote?  

Sar talks about crooks and psychos - how about all those Obama nominees that had to have their names withdrawn because they'd underpaid their taxes?  How about Charlie Rangel?  How about our treasury secretary?


I'm looking for something in there that denies Palin is a crook...... Nope! Nothing there! Thanks! Smilie_PDT
SkygreenLeopard

coastie wrote:
One of the lawsuits held up - and Palin reimbursed the state for her childrens' travel.  She was under the wrong impression that it was an allowable expense.


Awwwww. Well that just makes everything fine and dandy, don't it yaaaaaa'll? Rolling Eyes

See she's just a woman, you know she don' know all bout them thar ethics whichamacallits technicalities and such. She was only the governor of  the state, why should she have to worry about that kind of thing?

coastie wrote:

The other suits were dismissed as frivolous or without merit.  They were brought by people that had an ax to grind (probably far left folks of the sar ilk).


"Probably far left folks of the SAR ilk" eh? And what do you base that assumption on there chief? The fact that only them damn hippie liberals would dare smear the spotless record of our GOP holy mother? HA!

Here are the facts. Check'em if you want! Fly will get his thesaurus out, I'm sure, and say something convoluted enough that the facts start looking like... not the facts. But they still remain!

Ethics investigation finds Palin abused power
bi-partisan committee

Troopergate
Palin filed this complaint against herself!

Alaska Fund Trust Ethics Complaint
Filed by a private citizen who VOTED FOR PALIN 3 years ago

Palin PAC conflict ethics complaint:
Filed by a republican private citizen, a child disability advocate and mother of a special needs child at that!

DC GOP Fundraiser Ethics Complaint
Filed by a well-known Republican political watchdog who was also a former close political alley of Palin's!

Palin's Office Director Ethics Complaint
Again filed by the REPUBLICAN political watchdog

Palin's Communications Director Ethics Complaint
AGAIN filed by the same REPUBLICAN political watchdog. what's that? yeah! former longtime political alley of Palin!

Palin promoting political career from state office ethics complaint
Filed by Zane Henning, another well known conservative watchdog, and oil-field worker

That reimbursement deal you mentioned? Palin paid that off before a complaint could be filed or any action taken. So that doesn't count as part of the 13+ ethics complaints.

Troopergate part 2!
Again, Palin filed this one against herself!

Palin breaching state hiring rules ethics complaint
Filed by that same REPUBLICAN political watchdog!


So whatcha think coastie? Some Liberal conspiracy huh? looks like you've been hanging out with Fly too much. Laughing
jhofficial

Any convictions?  Coastie you cant use logic or truth with him.
SkygreenLeopard

jhofficial wrote:
Any convictions?  Coastie you cant use logic or truth with him.


You show me any other politician in office who has an ethics violation complaint brought against them by their own alleys and appointees, and people who voted for them almost on a monthly basis who still has their job, convictions or not. If Sarah Palin was doing what she was supposed to be doing, why is her own Alaskan base so disillusioned with her?

And yes! She was found guilty of abuse of power! Everyone seems to want to sweep that one under the rug. You just cant use things like logic, truth, or fact with some people.... but mostly republicans! Laughing
flyupsidedown

What was the abuse of power charge?  Sounds totally ominous.  Did she call in the Alaska National Guard and put the state under martial law all the while breaking down the doors of private residences to find all those people opposing her?  Tell me it is so.  We'll tar and feather her and run, er . . . its Alaska, we'll sled her out of town.

Listen, you can compare her against that corrupt community organizer you helped make president.  oh, by the by;

Obama Presidential Approval Index slips to -3
Thomas Lifson
The public's disenchantment with Barack Obama continues to rise. Rasmussen reports:

33% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-six percent (36%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -3.

http://www.americanthinker.com/bl...ama_presidential_approval_in.html

How do you say it?  His star is waning?  His leaf is withering?  His America is waking up?
flyupsidedown

Correction to the above poll.  That was yesterday's findings.

Today it is: Obama presidential approval index slips to minus 5
Rosslyn Smith
The "passion index" is minus 5 today. Those who strongly approve of President Obama's performance in office are outnumbered by those who strongly disapprove by a record 5 points, and the overall index is creeping toward 50-50, at  52%-48% today, according to Rasmussen . . .

. . . Obama is like a rock. Not as in, "Solid as a...", but as in "Dropping like a..."  Today, Obama's Rasmussen Approval Index hits a new low -- a dramatic drop from his previous low of -2.  His overall approval rating remains at his current low of 52%, set just yesterday (and meaning that he has been at 52%, his lowest level, for two days in a row).

http://www.americanthinker.com/bl...a_presidential_approval_in_1.html
flyupsidedown

Update to the update:

Obama plummets to minus 8 Presidential Approval Index
Thomas Lifson
The American public awakens to the disaster that is the Obama presidency. Rasmussen's Daily Presidential Approval Index shows 38% of the public strongly disapproves and only 30% strongly approve of Obama's handling of his job.

With the economy crashing despite the promises made over the stimulus package, the public is turning negative:

Thirty-nine percent (39%) now give the President good or excellent marks for handling the economy while 43% say he is doing a poor job. Those are by far his lowest ratings yet on the economy
Outsider

Rasmussen--by republicans for republicans, bought and paid for.  What do you expect them to come up with?

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Why it's increasingly difficult to take Rasmussen polls seriously

July 07, 2009 12:49 pm ET by Eric Boehlert

The surveys seem to exist solely to advance GOP talking points. Meaning, Rasmussen at times appears to function less as a legitimate polling firm and more as the polling wing of the RNC. Today's new survey about Sarah Palin and the repercussions of her "No mas" moment is a perfectly example.

I have not problem with the actual results per se, which are that 40 percent of Republicans think her quitting the Alaska governorship will hurt her chances to run for the White House in 2012. The bizarre part is that the Rasmussen poll only asks Republican voters their opinion about Palin. Independents and Democrats are of no interest to the GOP-centric Rasmussen. (Just my hunch, but if those two voter groups had been included, I'm guessing the final results would have between 70-80 percent of voters think Palin's career move was a bad one.)

What kind of polling firm, while trying to take the country's temperature about politics, only questions Republicans?

Meanwhile, in its write-up Rasmussen emphasized the RNC talking points about how Palin has been subjected to "relentless and generally hostile media coverage." (So the polling firm is now in the media criticism business?) Yet Rasmussen only points to a late-night comedian for proof of "hostile media coverage."
flyupsidedown

Okay.  Show me a poll that contradicts the trend.

By the way, the author of the article, Eric Boehlert, wrote the book; Lapdog: How the Press Rolled Over for Bush

What world does he live in?  With this type of insight, who needs lunatics?
Kestrel

Yes, I agree that is the trend. But even I gave Bush more than 7 months before I started slinging the mud.

How about a comparison between Obama's approval and the republicans approval?
flyupsidedown

Where was Bush at this time in his 1st term?  I really don't know.  I do know he was handed the Clinton dot-com recession and turned it around in short order.  He didn't spend anywhere near the grotesque amounts Obama has.
Kestrel

And the Clinton dot-com recession was nowhere near as bad as the Bush recession. And it took Bush eight months to turn it around. You must think Obama is "The One" if you think he can turn around this high unemployment in just seven months when it took Bush eight for that little recession. I'm sorry, but I have more realistic expectations.

And much of the money has yet to be spent. The money given to the NCDOT has yet to be completely spent. I'm thinking about 10-20% has been spent so far, and it'll be another four months before the majority of it is spent. So the eggs haven't hatched my friend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recessions#United_States_recessions
flyupsidedown

Let's see, 8 months, that would be 240 days to resolution of the recession.  And it was a big one.  Obama has been in how many days?  And the end is no where in sight.  I think those hens need to lay a little faster.  Whaddaya think?
Kestrel

What? The dot-com one was a big one? How so? And Obama hasn't been in for 8 months yet.

The recession in the early 80's took the great Reagan 16 months to turn around, and the Great Depression took 43 months to turn around. Since this recession is the worst since the Great Depression, we should give 16+ months for this one to turn around.

And they are not able to determine if we have come out of the recession until four or so months after it has ended.
flyupsidedown

kestrel:
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the Great Depression took 43 months to turn around

It is geneal consensus now by those who study it, that FDR's "New Deal" policies helped to prolong the depression and stymie recovery.

Obama likes to fancy himself patterned after FDR.  This may be a long haul.
Kestrel

flyupsidedown wrote:
kestrel:
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the Great Depression took 43 months to turn around

It is geneal consensus now by those who study it, that FDR's "New Deal" policies helped to prolong the depression and stymie recovery.

Obama likes to fancy himself patterned after FDR.  This may be a long haul.


No, that is the revisionist republicans. In the end, the massive government spending of WW2 got us out of it.

I'm just saying give Obama at least as much time as it took Reagan to get it turned around. And as I recall, Reagan did some massive government spending too.

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